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poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!! Joined: 01.24.2010
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Eat a ton of his salary and give him to LA |
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Eat a ton of his salary and give him to LA - poisondhearts37
That's what I'm afraid of. |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Talk about a player that I have completely forgot about.... |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Nice one Matt.
I for one agree with those scenarios. I see no other realistic option, however, than Car retaining hefty portion of his salary. Like it or not. |
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Yeti1181
Referee Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: I'm AWESOME, AB Joined: 07.27.2012
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Barbecued Hockey
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: Fuquay-Varina, NC Joined: 05.11.2009
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Scenarios 1 thru 3, yes, trade him. Scenario 4, no, do not trade him. The Jokinen situation still makes me sick to my stomach. What a dumb way to handle a talented player who was in a rut. If Rutherford botches Ruutu's situation the same way he botched Jokinen, I'll be screaming for Rutherford to be gone. He did a better job as GM when the team had a self imposed cap. He is a good low budget GM. I don't think he has done a good job at all since the ownership has allowed him to spend to the cap. |
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This guy is exactly what the Sharks need. What's the expected asking price for him? |
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This guy is exactly what the Sharks need. What's the expected asking price for him? - FinAddict
Best guess is that Rutherford is ready to move on and shed the contract. If San Jose is willing to take on the entire contract, I think the asking price is very low - it is mostly a financial flexibility/salary dump for the Canes. Per my comments in the blog, if SJ starts asking the Canes to eat a big chunk of the salary it then becomes more complicated. Basically, his value in trade should go up as his cost comes down. I hope Rutherford gets this, but with the "I just want out" precedent set by the Jokinen deal last year, I worry that we could see a repeat in which he gets fleeced by an opportunistic GM who gets it. |
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Best guess is that Rutherford is ready to move on and shed the contract. If San Jose is willing to take on the entire contract, I think the asking price is very low - it is mostly a financial flexibility/salary dump for the Canes. Per my comments in the blog, if SJ starts asking the Canes to eat a big chunk of the salary it then becomes more complicated. Basically, his value in trade should go up as his cost comes down. I hope Rutherford gets this, but with the "I just want out" precedent set by the Jokinen deal last year, I worry that we could see a repeat in which he gets fleeced by an opportunistic GM who gets it. - CarolinaMatt63
We'll swap you Havlat for him so it makes sense financially
SJ has Thornton, Boyle and Marleau as upcoming UFAs this summer. For a trade to happen I'd assume the Canes would have to eat a significant chunk of the salary, which probably puts his cost out of SJ's grasp. |
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We'll swap you Havlat for him so it makes sense financially
SJ has Thornton, Boyle and Marleau as upcoming UFAs this summer. For a trade to happen I'd assume the Canes would have to eat a significant chunk of the salary, which probably puts his cost out of SJ's grasp. - FinAddict
While I think that Rutherford would definitely consider a "change of scenery" trade of another contract for which current play/role does not match price (like the Liles/Gleason deal), Havlat is far from ideal. First, the $ savings are minimal. Canes owe Ruutu about $12.5M over next 2 1/2 years and Havlat gets about $8.5M over next 1 1/2. I think Rutherford would like to do better on either saving more money or getting a better player in return. But I think you are right on in that Havlat for Ruutu would be the core of the deal that the Sharks would offer.
Only time will tell:
--If Rutherford can get a better deal elsewhere.
--How desperate he is to just move on even if terms are not great. (Rational would suggest that there is some point where it is smarter to keep him.)
--Or if possibly Ruutu can find an important role on a Canes team that starts winning in which case things slow down a bit. |
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While I think that Rutherford would definitely consider a "change of scenery" trade of another contract for which current play/role does not match price (like the Liles/Gleason deal), Havlat is far from ideal. First, the $ savings are minimal. Canes owe Ruutu about $12.5M over next 2 1/2 years and Havlat gets about $8.5M over next 1 1/2. I think Rutherford would like to do better on either saving more money or getting a better player in return. But I think you are right on in that Havlat for Ruutu would be the core of the deal that the Sharks would offer.
Only time will tell:
--If Rutherford can get a better deal elsewhere.
--How desperate he is to just move on even if terms are not great. (Rational would suggest that there is some point where it is smarter to keep him.)
--Or if possibly Ruutu can find an important role on a Canes team that starts winning in which case things slow down a bit. - CarolinaMatt63
I'd assume he can get a better deal elsewhere. Havlat has had injury issues and when he has been healthy he's been about as useful as a screen door on a submarine for SJ. |
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nascarguy
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I smell Kraft Dinner, ON Joined: 01.18.2006
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If you really want him gone, throw him on waivers.. problem solved.
somebody will take him |
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