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Matt Karash
Carolina Hurricanes
Joined: 09.27.2005

Jan 20 @ 11:41 PM ET
Matt Karash: What to do with Tuomo Ruutu?
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jan 21 @ 12:00 AM ET
Eat a ton of his salary and give him to LA
Matt Karash
Carolina Hurricanes
Joined: 09.27.2005

Jan 21 @ 12:10 AM ET
Eat a ton of his salary and give him to LA
- poisondhearts37


That's what I'm afraid of.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 21 @ 12:12 AM ET
Talk about a player that I have completely forgot about....
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 21 @ 1:04 AM ET
Matt Karash: What to do with Tuomo Ruutu?
- CarolinaMatt63

Trade him for Booth.
OnIceEnforcer
Location: Hellsinki
Joined: 07.05.2013

Jan 21 @ 1:55 AM ET
Nice one Matt.

I for one agree with those scenarios. I see no other realistic option, however, than Car retaining hefty portion of his salary. Like it or not.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jan 21 @ 2:00 AM ET
Old yeller him.
Barbecued Hockey
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Fuquay-Varina, NC
Joined: 05.11.2009

Jan 21 @ 6:29 AM ET
Scenarios 1 thru 3, yes, trade him. Scenario 4, no, do not trade him. The Jokinen situation still makes me sick to my stomach. What a dumb way to handle a talented player who was in a rut. If Rutherford botches Ruutu's situation the same way he botched Jokinen, I'll be screaming for Rutherford to be gone. He did a better job as GM when the team had a self imposed cap. He is a good low budget GM. I don't think he has done a good job at all since the ownership has allowed him to spend to the cap.
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jan 21 @ 9:19 AM ET
This guy is exactly what the Sharks need. What's the expected asking price for him?
Matt Karash
Carolina Hurricanes
Joined: 09.27.2005

Jan 21 @ 9:39 AM ET
This guy is exactly what the Sharks need. What's the expected asking price for him?
- FinAddict


Best guess is that Rutherford is ready to move on and shed the contract. If San Jose is willing to take on the entire contract, I think the asking price is very low - it is mostly a financial flexibility/salary dump for the Canes. Per my comments in the blog, if SJ starts asking the Canes to eat a big chunk of the salary it then becomes more complicated. Basically, his value in trade should go up as his cost comes down. I hope Rutherford gets this, but with the "I just want out" precedent set by the Jokinen deal last year, I worry that we could see a repeat in which he gets fleeced by an opportunistic GM who gets it.
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jan 21 @ 9:45 AM ET
Best guess is that Rutherford is ready to move on and shed the contract. If San Jose is willing to take on the entire contract, I think the asking price is very low - it is mostly a financial flexibility/salary dump for the Canes. Per my comments in the blog, if SJ starts asking the Canes to eat a big chunk of the salary it then becomes more complicated. Basically, his value in trade should go up as his cost comes down. I hope Rutherford gets this, but with the "I just want out" precedent set by the Jokinen deal last year, I worry that we could see a repeat in which he gets fleeced by an opportunistic GM who gets it.
- CarolinaMatt63

We'll swap you Havlat for him so it makes sense financially

SJ has Thornton, Boyle and Marleau as upcoming UFAs this summer. For a trade to happen I'd assume the Canes would have to eat a significant chunk of the salary, which probably puts his cost out of SJ's grasp.
Matt Karash
Carolina Hurricanes
Joined: 09.27.2005

Jan 21 @ 10:06 AM ET
We'll swap you Havlat for him so it makes sense financially

SJ has Thornton, Boyle and Marleau as upcoming UFAs this summer. For a trade to happen I'd assume the Canes would have to eat a significant chunk of the salary, which probably puts his cost out of SJ's grasp.

- FinAddict


While I think that Rutherford would definitely consider a "change of scenery" trade of another contract for which current play/role does not match price (like the Liles/Gleason deal), Havlat is far from ideal. First, the $ savings are minimal. Canes owe Ruutu about $12.5M over next 2 1/2 years and Havlat gets about $8.5M over next 1 1/2. I think Rutherford would like to do better on either saving more money or getting a better player in return. But I think you are right on in that Havlat for Ruutu would be the core of the deal that the Sharks would offer.

Only time will tell:
--If Rutherford can get a better deal elsewhere.
--How desperate he is to just move on even if terms are not great. (Rational would suggest that there is some point where it is smarter to keep him.)
--Or if possibly Ruutu can find an important role on a Canes team that starts winning in which case things slow down a bit.
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

Jan 21 @ 10:10 AM ET
While I think that Rutherford would definitely consider a "change of scenery" trade of another contract for which current play/role does not match price (like the Liles/Gleason deal), Havlat is far from ideal. First, the $ savings are minimal. Canes owe Ruutu about $12.5M over next 2 1/2 years and Havlat gets about $8.5M over next 1 1/2. I think Rutherford would like to do better on either saving more money or getting a better player in return. But I think you are right on in that Havlat for Ruutu would be the core of the deal that the Sharks would offer.

Only time will tell:
--If Rutherford can get a better deal elsewhere.
--How desperate he is to just move on even if terms are not great. (Rational would suggest that there is some point where it is smarter to keep him.)
--Or if possibly Ruutu can find an important role on a Canes team that starts winning in which case things slow down a bit.

- CarolinaMatt63

I'd assume he can get a better deal elsewhere. Havlat has had injury issues and when he has been healthy he's been about as useful as a screen door on a submarine for SJ.
nascarguy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I smell Kraft Dinner, ON
Joined: 01.18.2006

Jan 21 @ 10:47 AM ET
If you really want him gone, throw him on waivers.. problem solved.
somebody will take him
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jan 21 @ 12:38 PM ET
Matt Karash: What to do with Tuomo Ruutu?
- CarolinaMatt63

I wish for:
Clarkson + draft pick/prospect incentive for Ruutu + salary dump